HowTo Fly Away… or how to escape from the RegisterFly nightmare: Part2 – HOW
In Part1 of this post I have explained the problem I had faced, when trying to renew one domain registered with RegisterFly. This is the second part of the post and shows a step by step procedure describing the solution that worked for me and allowed me to move away from registerfly and not loose my domain.
1. Why is this happening?
Registerfly is not explaining to their customer what the real problem is. From my own experiences and findings here is what is happening:
- RegisterFly used to be an ENOM reseller. All this started when they moved away from Enom and become a standalone registrar.
- Earlier this year, anyone renewing their domains on registerfly have seen that instead of the normal instant action this required a two step process. This was actually transferring their domain from Enom to RegisterFly’s own system. This caused some confusion but it was working and myself have renewed a few domains like that without any problems except the longer time to finish and the fact that I had received a transfer request that needed to be approved for the renewal to work.
- Starting around the end of October (presumably October 26th), .COM and .NET domains can be only transferred with an AuthCode, as well as .INFO or BIZ domains. This means that you will need the domain authcode in order to make any domain transfer.
I don’t know (and I don’t really care) what exactly is the problem, but it appears that the introduction of AuthCodes has broken the renewal process of RegisterFly domains still hosted on Enom system. The transfers are failing probably because of no authcode being known by RegisterFly.
2. Is your domain renewal problematic or not?
I have about 30 domain registered with RegisterFly and unfortunately only the one that was expiring soon was problematic. Why? Well if the domain is already in RegisterFly system the renewal will take place as expected in matter of minutes without any problems. The problem appears only on domains that are still in the Enom system and RegisterFly tries to actually transfer them in order to renew the domain. Using a simple whois query on the domain you can see if the domain is problematic or not:
If this says:
Domain Name: yourdomainname
Registrar: REGISTERFLY.COM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.registerfly.com
Referral URL: http://www.registerfly.comthen you are safe and you will not see any problems caused by this (and don’t need to follow up this post at all
)
But if this is says:
Domain Name: yourdomainname
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.enom.com
Referral URL: http://www.enom.comthen you are probably in big trouble and this post might help you solve the renewal problem.
3. Try to renew it anyway.
If you see one of your expiring domains in the situation presented above (still in the Enom system) then you should try as soon as possible to renew it. Who knows? maybe they have fixed the problem in the meantime, and you will no longer need to get through all this… But if it fails as shown in Part1 for my domain, read on…
4. Preparing to move away…
The next logical thing is to try to move the domain to some other registrar in order to not loose it. Normally any transfer will add one extra year also to the valability of the domain, but our main concern here is to transfer it safely (as this will fail if you are not following all the required steps presented bellow).
So let’s see what you need to prepare the move:
- if you are using ProtectFly disable it. ProtectFly has various problems and at this time if I send an email to a protectfly enabled email address it will not be forwarded to my own email address, meaning that I will not receive the transfer notifications.
- ensure that you have a correct admin contact email address. You will receive here the transfer notifications and need to take actions based on the information received in that email (to approve the transfer).
- unlock your domain: you will not be able to transfer the domain if it is locked. If you had tried to renew it on RegisterFly and it failed they have already unlocked the domain and left it in that state.
5. Get the domain AuthCode
You will need the AuthCode (also referred to as an authorization code, Authinfo code or an EPP code) in order to have the domain transferred.
Where can we find this information in the RegisterFly interface? Well from what I have found out we can’t… But let’s try it out anyway:
- once you have protectfly disabled, go into the domain management for the domain.
- enter in edit mode in the domain contact information page (this will only be showed in edit mode and not view mode).
- just bellow the billing information you should have the Auth Code. If you don’t have it then read on…
Assuming that there is not AuthCode for the domain in the registerfly interface you could try to call them and ask for it. From my experience this has failed and they said they don’t know the code and they can’t give it to me! (unbelievable, right?). The discussion of course finished with the registerfly slogan: “try again in 24h and maybe it will appear in your account).
The way how I was able to solve this, was calling Enom. I called them and explained that I have a domain expiring and this was registered with their former reseller registerfly. I have asked them if they can’t send me the authcode. I don’t know if this will happen the same for everyone, but the person I spoke from Enom was very nice and professional, and he sent me the authcode (on the admin email of the domain) and while I was still speaking with him (he was of course trying to convince me to move my domains to enom, but I explained that I have already started the process with a different registrar and have paid already for the transfer, and he backed up very polite no longer insisting into this), I already got the email with the code. Unbelievable what a difference from RegisterFly support peoples.
Note: the strangest thing is that after I finished the call, and looked again in the registerfly account the same authcode has appeared there also… very strange, and probably if I was not so scared to lose the domain and started the transfer already the next registerfly renewal probably would have succeeded.
6. Move away…
With all this information I could start the transfer successfully. I approved it, entered the authcode and the process started. I was looking into the status and it stayed for about 2 days in the same state (waiting for authorization from previous registrar).
After 2 days I got an email from registerfly about the transfer out (Domain Transfer Request for domain). If I would have not taken any action the transfer would have completed in about 5 days, but of course I opened the link from the email and approved it at once. The next minute the domain was safely in my new registrar’s account and extended until 2008. Victory!…
After all this fight I was able to renew the domain and lost only my time, my nerves and maybe some other things that I can’t see right now, but the domain was safe after all…
Conclusion: I have written this post hoping that it will help other peoples in similar situations. The lack of information and the horrible registerfly support makes it very hard to solve this problem. Also being on time pressure like I was (assuming from previous experience that the renewal process is something very easy and takes just a few minutes) is not helping at all… This post was not intended to be an anti-registerfly one, but just to help you renew your domain if you are in a similar situation (as probably this is all that matters for you) regardless if this is on registerfly or somewhere else.
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17th November 2006, 15:27
Thanks for all of this, it helped me also moving my accounts from RF!
Great
21st November 2006, 15:50
I won! I won!
I’ve had all the same problems others have had with Registerfly. I was so mad last night I didn’t sleep the entire night! I wanted some type of way to “get back” at them. Thought of a DoS attack…thought of spamming their exec’s email addresses…but I came to the conclusion that those methods were really bordering on the grey area of legality…so, I ended up submitting a support ticket with all my problems and complaints, concluding it by asking them to renew (or at the very least to TRANSFER) my domains to another registrar (or for them to at least give me the authorization code to transfer).
Yep, I submittied a support ticket. But we all know how kindly and effectively they answer those tickets, right?
So…I setup FireFox with the “ReloadEvery” extension. After I submitted the first support ticket, I setup firefox to reload the page after I clicked the “submit” button. What that does is also resend the POST data with the ticket submission. I set the reload to the mininum of 5 seconds. So every 5 seconds I’m generating a new trouble ticket in their system. After 90 minutes it genereated about 1600 tickets!
Well, that seemed to get their attention, and they have now given me an authorization code, and the domain is in the process of transfer. If anyone needs help with this, let me know!
30th November 2006, 07:15
Is there any hope once the domain has expired? I’ve attempted to renew the domain while it was still live but I kept getting the same error message.
[b]Renewal Failed: Unable to renew RENEWAL_RT[/b]
30th November 2006, 08:54
Casey,
Normally (with a respectable registrar) this would not be a problem and you have a time frame to still renew the domain. With registerfly, I am not sure if you will be able to save the domain. Keep pressuring them, call them and maybe you will be able to save the domain.
30th November 2006, 18:12
Thank you so much – with your help I finally finished the process today. You ROCK!
2nd December 2006, 19:32
Two of my domains were renewed 10 days before they were done but Registerfly has changed the NS names and they sent me a email the renewal failed. This sucks. They keep telling me for the past 3 days to retry in 24 hrs.
Anyway, this site helped becaue I am already starting the transfer of over 200 names to another registerar. I hope the owner of Registerfly dies and burns in hell. I hate registerfly.
4th December 2006, 03:32
I have to say, I have never encountered a company as bad as this one. It really is amazing that they’re still in business!
I can only hope that enough people come forward with their horror stories to kill their business. They clearly aren’t listening to their customers complaints.
4th December 2006, 19:16
The issue is that ENOM needs to generate the EPP code for the domain being transferred. Only by calling ENOM will they generate this code for RegisterFly domains… there seems to be some bad blood between these two companies and of course the end-user pays the price. Call ENOM at 1-425-883-8860 and let them know that this is unprofessional behavior.
5th December 2006, 12:13
i wish i knew this sooner! Ilost my domain to these bas@#$ds!
http://www.twincitiesspeedway.com
it is locked up says it is paid till 2007!
I hope they get sued ! I will join!
6th December 2006, 22:33
We got our domain back the same way.
http://www.eloquentix.com.
Thank you for the post without it we would still be waiting for the registerfly batch to execute. If there is even such a thing.
9th December 2006, 14:56
Well, I guess I wasn’t so lucky on this one. I have been trying to renew my domain for over 2 months now. It is due to expire in a couple of days now. The domain was on ENOM as well, in the beggining, but I received an e-mail saying it was transfered sucessfully to registerfly.
The problem is that in registerfly cpanel the expiration date didn’t change and I kept receiving expiration e-mails. Registerfly’s support sucks and almost never answers me. They refunded my renewal money and told me to “try again”. Ok, I tried again, but now, whenever I try to renew, right after I checkout, I receive an e-mail saying the renewal process failed (“RegisterFly.com Domain Renewal failure” message).
There is something weird, though, the WHOIS says my expiration date is december 2007 (as it should if my renewal ocurred successfully). The registerfly control panel, on the other hand, says december-2006, and I keep receiving e-mails….
This is the second time registerfly is acting on me, I had a VPS with them and suddenly they couldn’t charge my credit card for a month(for no reason, it was ok), and they killed the VPS, deleting all the files in it!. What a bunch of f*****… Now they want to take my domain as well…
9th December 2006, 15:08
Well, right now I received an e-mail from registerfly saying the renewal was sucessfull, and the information got updated on the cpanel.
Weirdly enought now my expiration date in WHOIS is december 2008 (one year further)!
I even requested a transfer to godaddy.com, but I guess now I will have to wait for the 60 days period or ask for a refund.
9th December 2006, 17:57
I sure hope I get the news that bernardo received today…we have a client that has been down for 5 days now…waiting for the batch…stuck with an enom/regfly name….DAMN!
11th December 2006, 18:55
Has anyone tried their support number lately? I called it today and after a greeting that seems like registerfly.com it then forwards you to a “toll free directory service” number… I think the company is dying. I’ve also been “on hold” on their liveperson support system for over an hour now telling me “an operator will be with me shortly”
I am in the same jam with an expired domain (because their renewal system wont let me renew and it has now expired) and am trying to find a solution. Thanks for this helpful info – it might let me transfer out from them. Thankfully I don’t have hundreds of domains with them – just a few.
12th December 2006, 04:50
I wish I could be as lucky as bernardo to I have been in que for a week my site down for 30 3 weeks now I have been on the phone with them every day and chris tells me 24 hours don’t know what to do it shows registerfly as my reg. anyone have but it also shows a transfer failed in October for this site. any ideas?
12th December 2006, 15:10
Just got off the phone with this inappropriate business. Like Tammy I am now on hold since Nov 15th on a domain name that was suppose to be “auto renewed”. They will not provide me with the AUTH CODE, will not provide me with any management member to speak to, and will not provide me with a means to move forward on the domain renewal process.
I am going to try the back door of ENOM. Thanks.
12th December 2006, 20:26
THANK YOU! I just contacted Enom and the lady I spoke with was the BEST. My domain is expired and she gave me the auth code!
12th December 2006, 21:25
Aaron,
Did you talk to enom sales or technical support…I also have an expired domain that I need to get free of registerflys grip
12th December 2006, 21:30
Also,
How do you get an expired domain (with no control panel) out of the system?
12th December 2006, 21:31
Chris,
I talked to a lady in technical support for domain transfers.
I’m trying to get through the process, but they sent me an e-mail confirmation the removal of the transfer lock. I didn’t respond to it right away (opps). I responded to it and am waiting for a reply from them. I’m not sure how long it takes, but the whois still says that client transfer is prohibited.
Aaron
12th December 2006, 21:35
So you request a transfer auth code from enom, then you get an email from registerfly saying that you can transfer it, then go to a registar of your choice to re-register the name? Or use the auth code through enom?
Thanks
Chris
12th December 2006, 21:41
Chris,
I explained to the lady what registerfly was doing to me and that my domain was expired. She asked me if the admin contact e-mail was mine, and then she e-mailed me the auth code. It came from Enom, not register fly. I then went to godaddy and started the transfer process. Unfortunately, it didn’t go through because the domain is still in a locked state. I am on hold with Enom right now to ask them about the unlocking process and how long it will take…
Aaron
12th December 2006, 21:42
Let me know what you find out…Ill probably be doing the same thing later this afternoon…
12th December 2006, 22:00
I was on hold for 10 minutes and got dumped into their voice mail.
You can e-mail me. the spiritual1 @ gmail . com
12th December 2006, 22:59
Aaron and Chris…
I am currently facing the same issue. I received the AUTH CODE through ENOM. Now I am facing the DOMAIN LOCK issue. Let us know how this goes with ENOM. We also face the issue of RegistryFly.com sending an email to NEW PROVIDER with confirmation with the go ahead to transfer. This is what scares me…
12th December 2006, 23:16
Ok… ENOM unlocked my domain… Now its up to my NEW PROVIDER to grab her.
12th December 2006, 23:23
Chad…did you have to talk to enom to unlock the domain or did they take care of it? who are you using as your new provider?
12th December 2006, 23:28
ENOM took care of it over the phone. They control everything on these domains that are listed as ENOM Registrar. I am using GoDaddy.com on this one. At this point I don’t trust any of them. Although based on the quick support response to this demanding problem that Registerfly.com created, I may choose to register a few with ENOM.
12th December 2006, 23:31
I really hope a lawyer reads all of this and gets creatively interesting in a class action suit against RegistryFly.com. This is definately going to cost me a loss of some clients. Of course I could have been smart and contacted ENOM right away to avoid all of this.
13th December 2006, 19:18
This happened to me for week with RFly i think we really need to have these crooks chraged. This blog saved my company. I have had 20 people down for a week. The people an Enom were very good they did make me create an account and transfer the domain to them but within 2 hours i was up and running- no problems at all.
thanks to all of your info
hanif
20th December 2006, 21:29
I had the exact same problem (renewals not working). I did a chargeback because I paid for the renewal like 5 times, and then RegisterFly decided to punish me by taking _all_ of my websites offline.
Read more about it here:
http://bie.no/blog/metabjorn/2006/12/a-warning-about-the-registrar-registerfly/
Digg it here:
http://bie.no/blog/metabjorn/2006/12/a-warning-about-the-registrar-registerfly/
20th December 2006, 21:30
err.. sorry, the Digg link should be:
http://www.digg.com/tech_news/A_warning_about_the_registrar_RegisterFly
29th December 2006, 21:37
Thank you for this post, the information here has been extremely valuable. We were able to get our “expired” domain name renewed, 6 days after the expiration process started, for US$29.95 with Enom by phoning Enom directly. It took a little longer because our registration period ended just before Christmas. There’s a lesson for first-timers domain name holders here: Just before a public holiday period is a lousy time to register a domain!
I had paid Registerfly for the auto renewal (that they never enacted) via PayPal. When I activated a PayPal dispute on the grounds that the service was never supplied, Registerfly returned the money and closed the dispute – but they retaliated by moving my other domain name (not due to expire until April 2007) into their Account Fraud section. Up until that point I *might* have been persuaded that the problem was that Registerfly are completely incompetent, but this last action screams fraud and corruption.
30th December 2006, 17:05
Just a couple of notes to add–
If your domain transfers from eNom to R’fly as part of the renewal process, it looks like the 60-day hold against further transfers is in effect. At least that’s what I think happened in my case…I’ll know for sure in mid-January when the hold is supposed to expire. Thankfully, I only have one domain remaining with them.
And to add a data point on how broken R’fly is: I had a domain expire in mid-October, so I had to go through the renewal/transfer process. Long story, many phone calls, etc., etc., but somehow that all managed to happen successfully. AFTER THAT, R’fly kept trying to transfer the domain…even though *they already had it!!* Naturally, the transfer would fail, so then they would credit my “Quick Pay” account for the amount of the renewal fee. Mind you, there was not a corresponding debit against “Quick Pay” for the transfer attempt itself, so the balance keeps building.
Even more bizarre: I told R’fly about this, -repeatedly-, even making explicit mention of the “Quick Pay” issue, and they would still ignore the reports. In fact, they tried to close one ticket I had on the issue no less than four times…and then finally deleted the ticket out of my account altogether. A second ticket was closed outright before I could respond.
3rd January 2007, 01:37
http://www.oklol.co.uk/2007/01/03/registerfly-problems-icann-should-suspend-them-of-there-trading-license/
3rd January 2007, 19:31
This entry on RegisterFlies saved a lot of time, many thanks!
4th January 2007, 18:10
I’m in the same boat right now, a few questions….since the domain is already exprired, it doesn’t show up in the Registerfly CP. I’m not sure if Protectfly is turned on or not b/c I can’t see any of the detail of the domain in the CP…I’m trying to get ahold of eNom for help to get the domain unlocked so I can transfer it away, but the next problem is that the admin email on the domain is an email addy at the same domain and it appears that the MX records have gone missing…so I won’t be able to receive any emails to the admin address…has anyone else been in this boat? Was eNom able to help?
8th January 2007, 11:37
I am/have been in the smae boat. I have been trying to renew 2 domains with them.
They had (unknown to me) put support@registerfly.com on the whois records. I tried to renew the names before they expired but as the original registrar was enom, this actually initiated a transfer. The transfer email goes to support@registerfly.com which as we know is a ficticious address that doesn’t get picked up.
So the domains slipped into expiry then into redemption. I phoned enom who were actually quite understanding but needed the whois records to point to MY email, not support@registerfly.com. I have been trying to get registerfly to do this but without success.
I have already lost one domain when enom sold it to someone else just days after the initial 30 day renewal period and my second is in extended redemption at the moment. If I lose this too then I will have lost at least $2000 due to their incompetence.
If anyone has any ideas then please let me know. GOOD LUCK everyone!
9th January 2007, 01:35
Registerfly SUCKS @$$!
I’ve tried to register 1 domain name and renew 2 other domain names with Registerfly on many occassions. They’ve charged me for transactions (some I’ve done 2x) but did not deliver. They also promised the refund of money in which I never got back. I went to Godaddy.com to register a domain and was up and running within a few minutes. The other domains however were renewed and yet remain down after extensive hounding of the Registerfly.
I’ve called Registerfly plenty of times and all I get is long wait times and slow response. Sometimes I’ve waited up to over an hour on the phone where I just had to give up waiting. I’ve even gone online and received the answer repeatedly to WAIT 24 hrs…. this has gone on for OVER A WEEK!
12th January 2007, 04:40
I renewed early and of course it did not renew…it was in que and was told through a support ticket that it would be renewed but now it has expired! UGH! I cannot get through and have tried at all hours. I am stuck and not sure I want to push my domain to Enom. I have had no website http://www.terrigilchrist.us since January 3rd. Any suggestions?
13th January 2007, 12:18
Last year, I had problems transferring my domain and decided to renew with Registerfly anyway in order to keep the domain. And this year, there seems to be something stirring up at registerflies.com, so I decided to bail out before it was too late.
My domain was in the “Domain Name: yourdomainname, Registrar: ENOM, INC., Whois Server: whois.enom.com, Referral URL: http://www.enom.com” group. However, my auth code was right there – I just had to click on “Configure” at the contact information, and the auth code was below the billing info at the edit screen.
Hope this works for others out there.
13th January 2007, 12:19
… also, sometimes it doesn’t show up, so try refreshing the screen (by link, not by browser button).
17th January 2007, 17:05
I am in the exact same boat. Multiple domain names expiring, cant get hold of them on live support or phone. Tickets are reponsed to 7 days later with “try again in 24 hours” to which it doesnt.
They take money for each renewal and never refund it. I cant believe that this sh*t actually can happen and no one can do anything about it.
If you google registrfly renew or fraud or scam, you will be shocked what you find. Does anyone know how to get resolve this?
I found that many domains also went missing from my a/c… ARGGG!!!
20th January 2007, 16:00
Tell me about it. I got a renewal notice from registerfly.com for two of my domains. On renewed instantly (though I don’t know if believe the confirmation notice), but the other failed twice. After trying to get in touch with them for nearly a week, I got an e-mail that said “domain name not found.” Well, there it is when I go to registerfly.com and click on domain manager. So I tried again, and got two successful notices, each with different numbers, so I guess they billed me twice for the same thing.
One cannot reach them by phone. I get a message that I am caller #2 (maybe this is supposed to be an insult), then later the same thing with another message that estimated hold time is less than two minutes, then later the same thing with another message saying estimated hold time is two minutes, then later the same thing, with a message that estimated hold time is three minutes, then later it changes to four minutes, then later to five.
It doesn’t matter which item on the menu one picks; the messages are the same, always.
If one doesn’t pick a menu item, one gets a message about some directory service company, so the call flips to another line or company. This suggests to me that registerfly may be going out of business (as in the owners fleeing with the money). The on-line chat feature doesn’t work (nobody answers), and sometimes it simply disappears when one hits the send button.
E-mails are returned as undeliverable.
Can anybody recommend another service I can transfer all my domains to? I don’t have any Web sites. Thanks.
21st January 2007, 04:05
Well, I checked again, and the two charges were processed as two years’ worth of renewals, so that’s okay, I guess. Still, I don’t know if registerfly can be trusted.
24th January 2007, 23:27
Most of what you all descibe is what I’ve gone through, but my domain is showing REGISTERFLY in the WHOIS record instead of eNom. I think I went through the whole eNom transfer process last year (smoothly, by the way… so that’s how I got blindsided this year when I trusted their Auto Renewal system to work). I have been told that my trouble ticket has been forwarded to THIRD TIER SUPPORT, and that it will take 1 to 5 days for resolution (via ticket responses and also by a rep on the phone). From what I see on this site, I have little confidence that anything will happen other than my site will be offline for at least 5 more days. The domain is now in redemption period, whatever that means.
So… do I have to wait for 30 days before I can just grab the domain through another registrar? Since eNom doesn’t appear in my WHOIS query, then is there any reason to contact them (or anyone else)???
If you have any ideas, please HELP!
26th January 2007, 18:28
Hey! I just joined 4 the 1st time this week.
Sorry for my laziness, but I just thought I’d ask if you could point me to any particularly relevant posts that I should check out first, so I can get up to speed here?
Thank you, Mike Gladstone
6th February 2007, 08:09
I just found this sight and only have a couple of free minutes but just wanted to say — These muthafvckers at RegFly are brutal!!!!
I couldn’t even begin to describe the BS I have gone through with them, Everything you have read here about them and more!
ARGH!!!!!!!!!
I will post more later…
11th February 2007, 22:50
I am trying to transfer my names from rip-off-fly to godaddy The names are going to expire soon. When I do the who is it shows as registerfly so I am ok on that. The problem is Godaddy sends email to Support@registerfly & they should get a response with 2 numbers Transaction ID: & Security Code.
It has been 2weeks now & I have opened support tickets asking why they have not respond with these # & all I get is BS answers.
I have my authorization code it was on the registerfly site my account is unlocked & I don’t have fly protect. I also checked that my email address is right in the contact info.
So what the hell do I do now?
15th February 2007, 23:43
Man.. this just sucks. I have been stressing so much over this situation. I had renewed a clients domain (so I thought) several weeks before it was to expire. The domain showed ENOM still has its owner. I have made calls, sent emails, support tickets. And the same BS. So I called ENOM today and they were great, and discussed what I needed to do to transfer over to them. It will cost $30. So I will do this with this one domain. But what about my others that are with Registerfly and owned by ENOM? I have until the end of the year to renew. How should I go about transferring them away from Registerfly. I also took the Protectfly off, but can someone tell me how long it will take for it to show up in the WHOIS database because ENOM asked me to take it off and send them a screenshot of it. Anyhelp would be great.
16th February 2007, 07:22
RegisterFly is the worst registrar company ever!! I’m having so much trouble with this authcode issue. The authorization code does not show where it should, and I already sent many support tickets and I haven’t gotten a reasonable answer yet.
I have one domain in what they call “redemption” because their crappy system wasn’t able to renew it.
I need to transfer my domains away from this third rate, piece of crap company called registerfly. I’ll call enom to see if they can help, but I doubt they’ll be able to provide me with the authcodes of the newer domains that show up in the whois database as registered by RegisterFLY, I have not idea how to solve that yet.
18th February 2007, 00:06
In the same boat with StinkFly.
I thought I was calling the Hati.
I have one expired domain & 4 in transition to GoDaddy.
They all whois as ENOM but Enom site tells me to contact StinkFly.
I will @ High Noon on Monday call Enom & attempt to get the authorization code for all 5 domain names & see where I get.
I did get an email from Enom stating a different renewal price for the expired domain than the $29.99 if it works I’ll share the info on Monday as soon as all my names are safe from the FlyCrapTrap.
Funny thing is the registerfly.com whois domain name info:
Domain Name: REGISTERFLY.COM
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.enom.com
Referral URL: http://www.enom.com
Name Server: DNS1.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS2.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS3.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS4.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS5.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 14-feb-2007
Creation Date: 14-aug-2000
Expiration Date: 14-aug-2009
Visit AboutUs.org for more information about registerfly.com
AboutUs: registerfly.com
Registration Service Provided By: Enom, Inc
Contact: info2@enom.com
Visit: http://www.enom.com
Domain name: registerfly.com
Registrant Contact:
RegisterFly.com, inc.
Responsible Party (sales@registerfly.com)
+1.9734048430
Fax: +1.5097568622
404 Main Street
Suite 401 (Fourth Floor)
Boonton, NJ 07005
US
Administrative Contact:
RegisterFly.com, inc.
Responsible Party (sales@registerfly.com)
+1.9734048430
Fax: +1.5097568622
404 Main Street
Suite 401 (Fourth Floor)
Boonton, NJ 07005
US
Technical Contact:
RegisterFly.com, inc.
Responsible Party (sales@registerfly.com)
+1.9734048430
Fax: +1.5097568622
404 Main Street
Suite 401 (Fourth Floor)
Boonton, NJ 07005
US
Status: Active
Name Servers:
dns1.name-services.com
dns2.name-services.com
dns3.name-services.com
dns4.name-services.com
dns5.name-services.com
Creation date: 14 Aug 2000 08:46:23
Expiration date: 14 Aug 2009 08:46:23
Wonder if they will have any trouble renewing?
abeachdude
Orlando, FL
18th February 2007, 01:40
I tried to transfer a domain from registerfly.com to another registrar and got the auth. code two weeks ago, but till now didnt get any mail from them to confirm transfer. the domain expires on Feb,26fh 2007.
so is it advisable to renew it or wait until it expires and register it then.
I mean when a domain is expired , after how long it will be free to be registerd
18th February 2007, 01:40
Chinese New Year
The Planets are all in Line
Luck of the Irish
Either that or maybe I just lucked out.
First I checked my Capitol One business credit card account
Charged 6 times $12.99 for a renewal that didn’t happen.
Called up & the nice Indian gentleman said that he would do an imediate chargeback, credit my account & have a new card issued to me.
He didn’t have to say the magic word: FRAUD
So the credit card is being worked on.
Next after sending a email asking for the authorization code from ENOM I had an email with a link setting up an account for me.
This is the ENOM email:
This is our second notice to owners of domains which have been registered through eNom via its reseller, RegisterFly.com. Although you purchased your name at RegisterFly, eNom is the actual registrar-of-record for your domains.
You can verify by searching the record of your domain name at sites such as http://www.uwhois.com.
YOUR DOMAIN NAMES REGISTERED VIA REGISTERFLY.COM
As an eNom reseller, RegisterFly was bound to adhere to certain standards of customer service such as providing customer service in a speedy and diligent manner. Because RegisterFly was unable to provide customer service meeting these standards,
eNom terminated RegisterFly as a reseller of its domain names on February 6, 2007.
Our records indicate that you are the registrant contact for 5 domain(s).
HOW TO SECURE CONTROL OF YOUR DOMAIN NAMES WITH ENOM
Using the coded link below, create an eNom login ID. There is no charge to activate your account. Once you do so, your eligible domain names will automatically be moved to the eNom control panel. There you can instantly re-access management rights for your domain names.
As a special welcome to eNom, should you choose to renew those domains, they will receive a discounted renewal rate.
Again, there is absolutely no charge for this service, as eNom is already the registrar of record for your domains. Find additional information about this action in our frequently asked questions section http://www.enom.com/migrate/faq.asp
After you’ve created an eNom account, you will also have the option to transfer your domains to any other ICANN accredited registrar of your choice including RegisterFly.
We look forward to helping make this a smooth transition for you to secure your domain management.
eNom, Inc.
http://www.eNom.com
former registrar for RegisterFly.com
P.S.: IMPORTANT! If no action is taken by March 9, 2007, you may not be able to manage your domain name. The domain name will remain registered in your name at eNom until it expires.
Click, do a little set up & bam all 5 domain names are in the hands of ENOM. I hope.
Even the expired one show up & with a renewal of only $9.99 for a year.
Becareful you have to go into your account settings & make a few changes or you will be charged for 2 years (default setting).
HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY HAPPY HAPPY JOY
I need a long nap from all the StinkFly Crap!
If you can’t find your email from ENOM call them. They had my stuff away from CrapFly in under 2 minutes.
Better get on it right away to beat the March cutoff date!
Maybe we should all contact ICAN, FTC, NJ & our home state AG Office, FBI & what the heck INS (maybe some undocumented workers working there)
What ever it takes to bring them down & let the FLY DIE.
Abeachdude
Orlando, FL
18th February 2007, 01:42
did you whois.org your domain to make sure it’s transfered?
Abeachdude
Orlando, FL
18th February 2007, 07:16
thank u for ur rapid response
I chkd but there is no sign of transfer ..it says Status is ok
so please can u advice me what to do ,
the domain expires on Feb,26fh 2007.
shall I renew it or wait until it expires and register it then.
I mean when a domain is expired , after how long it will be free to be registerd
thanks alot
19th February 2007, 11:29
Registerfly is criminal organization. They are not a company. Their racket is basically one of fraud and extortion. The way they operate (as it has been reported by many throughout the internet) is to lure you into purchasing domains and misc. services at very enticing prices. Once you register with them they lock your domain up so that it expires and goes into the infamous redemption phase (here is where the fun starts). Next they’ll proceed to tell you that in order for them to pull it out of redemption they’ll need to charge you roughly $300 per name for the “privilege.” This is pure extortion and it is ILLEGAL. All of this is happening in front of ICANN’s nose and they could care less to do anything about it since they too have a financial interest at stake.
The guy behind this criminal enterprise is Kevin Medina. He is a Cuban American who lives in Miami Beach Florida. His reported address is:
Kevin J. Medina
450 Alton Road #4002
Miami Beach, FL
My advice to all of you is to pull your names out of this criminal organization at once. And most importantly, you may wish to contact the Miami Beach Detective Branch at 305-673-7940 (regardless of what state you’re in) and file a complaint.
Lastly, I highly advise all of you to contact Mr. Anderson Cooper of CNN. He is a top news reporter who can blow the lid right off this case by giving it the national media exposure it so desperately deserves. PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THIS LIGHTLY! Your failure to become proactive in this cause is a sure win for Registerfly. So I highly advise all of you if you haven’t already done so to click on the link below and send in your report. List all the facts of your case and do not use any profanity. Tell Mr. Cooper & CNN everything that has happened to you as if you were telling it for the first time. Don’t leave any stones unturned. This is where it really counts folks. This is the only way to combat this cancer known as Registerfly.
http://www.cnn.com/exchange/ireports/topics/forms/2006/12/ac360.anon.html
Good luck to all of you!
19th February 2007, 13:53
thank u for the valuable information . do think that godaddy.com is a good choice to transfer to ?
20th February 2007, 03:11
Ok, I am havign the same problems with Registerfly and trying frantically to transfer my domain names although one important one has gone into expired. I’ll see if enom can save it since it shows it’s with them. Of course register fly will not answer phones or update tickets, I have even had tickets just deleted without being updated – they are just gone out of support.
Now here is another BIG warning to everyone, I can’t prove it but one of my business credit cards that I have not used for ANYTHING besides Registerfly in the last year suddenly started getting all kinds of bogus charges of over $1000 a day from some strange sounding places, kudos to Visa for catching it fast and deactivating my card and calling me. I still have the card in my wallet, so it had to be online and I believe the leak of info was from Register Fly. Maybe the owners are planning on leaving the country with everyone’s credit card numbers or selling our credit card numbers to make up for all their domain name losses? Has anyone else had this problem in the last couple of weeks?
22nd February 2007, 09:26
There is a very interesting article someone wrote about registerfly:
Registerfly Debacle: The New World Orders Ultimate Reigns of Hell.
http://www.xenacarpenter.info/2007/02/registerfly_deb.html
22nd February 2007, 21:17
As an alternative, check out DownDoggy.com.
To all the disgruntled Register Fly customers. My name is Nathan Mallamace, the owner of DownDoggy.com. Unfortunately, I too have been the victim of a registrar gone bad. The thought of losing a domain is about as close to someone breaking into your house in the middle of the night. You feel helpless, violated and robbed of your security.
My message is short. Register your domain at DownDoggy.com and we’ll take care of you. We have friendly customer care representatives available 24/7. We’ll safely help you get your domain transfered from Register Fly to people you can trust.
Visit http://DownDoggy.com/TransferAwayFromRegisterFly for more info even if its not with us.
25th February 2007, 21:53
THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!!
.. and that’s just for now
I almost cried trying to find the auth. code, now I can complete the transfer
Thanks alot
26th February 2007, 11:41
Registerfly are criminals.
If you take a look in the Internet, there a lot of forums that write about the frauds that they do to their customers.
They send fake spamm e-mails to attack customers.
They charge more in their customers’ visa card when they renew or register domains.
They don’t change DNS of the domains names.
They don’t Unlock the Lock flag on the domains and they don’t give the Authorization codes for the domains names in order to be transferred.
They don’t answer the emails, tickets and when they answer they lie
and they talk with sarcasm.
All these things make a lot of trouble to many companies, and to many of my customers and give a very bad image about USA and American rules.
These moves make people want to crash with aeroplanes to your offices and also make the foreigners to hate Americans so much that force them to do bad things to them. DON’T YOU SEE THAT?
WHY DO YOU LET THESE KIND OF COMPANIES TO STAY IN BUSINESS FOR SO LONG?
PLEASE MAKE A SEARCH ABOUT REGISTERFLY IN INTERNET FORUMS TO SEE THAT THEY SAY EXACTLY THE THINGS THAT I WRITE YOU.
26th February 2007, 11:42
Registerfly is stealing our domains
They don’t renew the domains in time
They don’t give as the auth code and they don’t unlock our domains to transfer them to another registrar so our domains are expiring and they use them.
(in the past they stole my domains http://www.cyprusltd.com and http://www.cyprus-ltd.com and now they Stole greek-tour.net, Your-Travel-Guide.net which expired and they didn’t renew them)
Perhaps registerfy.com and enom.com are the same company because registerfly.com stole my domains http://www.cyprusltd.com and http://www.cyprus-ltd.com and now I see that are hosted to enom.com and play ads for enom.com
They connect with advertising companies or they have their one advertising company and they take advantage of the being registars and they are stealing domains from their customers which they use them to show advertising links for them.!!!
Internet is full of complaints about registerfly, it is a fraud company.
How do you let them be in business for so long.
Please someone HELP ME in order to leave from these crops
28th February 2007, 10:49
We have problems with Registerfly.
They don’t send the author code in order to transfer to another registar.
Can you help receive the author code and can you unlock our domains to move them to another registar?
They don’t answer to our daily tickets and e-mails.
They don’t unlock any domain at all.
THEY DISABLE THE UNLOCK FUNCTION FROM THEIR FORM.!!!
THE FUNCTION IS THERE BUT IT DOESN’T WORK AT ALL.
This is monopoly, and is forbidden by the USA law. You cover them because you know all this and you don’t do anything. You are responsible because you give them permission to use in every contact the word “ICANN Accredited Registrarâ€.!!!
This things are making aeroplanes crash your offices, don’t you see that?
This company take hostages thousands companies all over the world, and all this saw an bad image to USA and to your laws, don’t you see that?
Their purpose is to steal the domain names of their customers in order to put ads of the companies that guide them, don’t you see that?
28th February 2007, 10:50
The trick of the supposed problems of the registerfly is to steak our domain names, and ICANN.ORG knows it but they don’t do something.
It is possibly that enom.com is also in this trick, and other companies for example advertising companies etc. They see the big success of google (adsense), yahoo, etc and they try to enter in the advertising in order to steal our domain names and taking advantage of our visitors, they take money from the advertisements.
The trick is very simple
They send fake spam email with extremely low prices for transfer and register domain names. After that they grab the customers who transfer the domains to them (the prices are lie because they charge much higher than they said).
They supposed to have technical problems, economical problems (but all this is a lie because they don’t have staff, everything are automated and they huge profits). The names that are expiring they don’t renew them, so the domain name is expired and it is theirs and in a short time your domain name advertises their collaborators.
ICANN.org has a huge responsibity because in every email and in their site they alwayw write “ICANN Accredited Registrarâ€. ICANN.org knows everything about what is happening but they don’t do anything
This trick works for many years and no one does anything.
ICANN.ORG says that they aren’t responsible, they know everything or they should know because if someone searches he would find that Internet is full of complaints for registerfly.com and I haven’t seen all their frauds that they have done.
If someone wants to see which is the purpose, I write that:
For almost 10 days I send messages to registerfly.com for problems that I have. My domain names are expiring and they don’t renew them, I can’t change DNS to my domain, they don’t send me authorization code and don’t let me unlock them in order to transfer them to other registrar.
AND WHEN I SEND A MESSAGE TO DELETE ONE OF MY DOMAIN NAMES FROM MY ACCOUNT, THEY DID IT AND THEY ANSWERED IMMEDIATELY
It was the only e-mail that they answered and after that they disappeared again. Since them I thought that it wasn’t anyone there, and that no one have seen my messages but when they deleted my domain name (of course, they use it for them) they answered immediately, and with this they saw that the watch all the tickets (messages) and they watch and apparently laugh with the despaired web masters who want desperately to renew their domains, but they answer only in messages that will give them more domain names.
28th February 2007, 10:51
Registerfly has hostages million of domain names which belongs to companies and web master all over the world, hiding behind of ICANN and ICCANN don’t do anything.
PLEASE SOMEONE HELP!!!
Up to two million domain names, including many with associated Web sites, are at risk over the apparent failure of ICANN-accredited domain registrar, RegisterFly.com.
The company in recent weeks is reportedly almost dysfunctional as customers scramble to register, renew or transfer names. RegisterFly.com’s support systems appear to be down, or completely overwhelmed.
It appears all domain names with the registrar are locked, preventing clients transferring, or even updating them. Attempts to change the status of domains are being overridden by the registrar.
Registrars are required to provide owners with authorization codes which are required in transferring to other registrars. These are normally displayed in clients’ accounts, which are accessed by private login and password codes. It appears however RegisterFly.com has stopped displaying the codes.
Calls to the various telephone numbers nominated for sales, technical support, and billing enquiries are going unanswered. Emails are not being responded to, and the registrar’s online support system appears to be unmanned or so under-resourced it is giving that impression. The company has recently introduced a new fax support system. However faxes are going unanswered as well.
Customers attempting to renew domains are receiving emails saying their renewals have failed, without any other information or explanation. In some cases attempts to subscribe to other services are unsuccessful with online messages indicating there is a problem with their credit card, or payment is denied. On checking with their credit card provider they are sometimes finding charges have in fact gone through.
They send fake spam email with extremely low prices for transfer and register domain names. After that they grab the customers who transfer the domains to them (the prices are lie because they charge much higher than they write).
They supposed to have technical problems, economical problems (but all this is a lie because they don’t have staff, everything are automated and they have huge profits). The names that are expiring they don’t renew them, so the domain name is expired and it is theirs and in a short time your domain name advertises their collaborators.
RegisterFly.com uses a security certificate to encrypt data during transmission. Pop-up prompts now appearing on its site however are notifying site users that the security certificate, which had 12 months duration, expired on Saturday.
A major concern for domain owners is that not only are their names at risk, but in many cases those domains involve Web sites.
A site http://www.registerflies.com has been established for disgruntled RegisterFly.com customers to air their grievances. Curiously http://www.registerflysucks.com is actually registered to, and hosted by, RegisterFly.com itself as a “landing page†or “parked†site. Unfortunately for the embattled company the site features a review of RegisterFly.com which is far from favorable. Reviewer Jim Darson says, “It seems from the comments/emails I have received, that you should definitely stay away from this company. How they have managed to continue operating with all the negative feedback I’ve received is beyond me.â€
One poster, Anon, added, “My account is restricted, my domains are locked, I can’t transfer to another registrar.â€
Adventurepack commented, “These guys are horrible. Besides quadruple charging my credit card without authorization and trying for weeks to get hold of them by email and phone (one time I called on their toll free line at 2 pm central time and was on hold till I came back the next day at 9 am central time). They tried to use a service called stormpay. What a joke. They try to charge you a $12 fee for returning your money that they wrongfully charged you for in the first place.â€
Lee S. said, “They have taken at least three of my names and sold them to other parties. I have always paid my renewals on time, but that doesn’t matter. One of the names they hijacked isn’t up for renewal for three weeks. And, of course, they are still billing me as if nothing is happening.â€
On digg, poster publicXcuse says, “Over the last three or four weeks I’ve tried renewing one of my domains about 10-12 times now and I get a failure every time. Registerfly keeps saying sorry and to try again. It keeps failing it doesn’t look like it’s going to end anytime soon.â€
The problem with RegisterFly.com highlights the vulnerability of domain name owners generally who entrust the world’s approved registrars to act as custodians to what is becoming extremely valuable property.
The value of domain names has shot higher in recent years, particularly with the proliferation of parked Web sites. Here domain registrars, including the majors, are using their customers domain names to establish advertising vehicles for which they derive advertising revenue. Often the domains are used without the authorization, or even the knowledge, of owners. Some however offer customers participation, but usually at a fee. If customers don’t take up the option, then the registrar often just uses the domain anyway, pocketing the revenue itself.
The business is so big, one of the majors monetizing domain names, Demand Media, Inc., has acquired two of the largest wholesale registrars, Bulk Register.com and Enom.com. Enom.com had ties with RegisterFly.com, which was one of its resellers for several years (since 2000) until the arrangement was terminated in February last year.
Founded in April 2006, Demand Media is a next-generation Web media company which has put together more than 150,000 domain names and turned them into niche content Web sites.
A dilemma for domain name owners is that registrars are becoming increasingly involved in the use and monetization of domain names themselves, raising suspicions when owners are not advised of pending expiries of their domains, and in the case of RegisterFly.com where they are unable to renew or transfer them. (This is monopoly and fraud which is forbidden by the laws of USA) It is unlikely registrars would deliberately engage in practices to pirate domains they are guardians of, but there are many disgruntled former domain owners who blame their registrars for their losses.
RegisterFly.com is involved in providing what are called, “landing pages,†whereby either text ads relevant to the domain name feature, or unique content is established on the domain page or pages, surrounded by advertising banners or links. The advertising revenue generated in this case goes to RegisterFly.com and owners are not given the opportunity to share in it.
At least for the past week the monetized sites appeared to be down with the message: “We’re sorry, but something went wrong. We’ve been notified about this issue and we’ll take a look at it shortly.†Some domains are now back displaying text ads again, while others don’t propagate. Meantime a number of domains registered with RegisterFly.com are now pointing to EventRobot pages related to a company that claims to “transform your site or message board into an interactive social networking experience, converting your audience into a passionate community.â€
Problems with RegisterFly.com, which claims to have two million domains under its control through one million customers in all fifty U.S. states and 120 countries, appear to have surfaced long before its accreditation with ICANN and appear to have played a major part in the severing of ties with Enom. As of Monday RegisterFly.com was still listed as an ICANN accredited registrar. The ICANN Web site in describing RegisterFly.com says its, “various products and services is backed by 24/7 World class customer service via phone, live chat and email.â€
RegisterFly.com, which according to ICANN has its offices at 4th Floor, 404 Main Street, Boonton, NJ, also offers hosting services and claims to be presently serving more than 300,000 Web sites. The company claims to be debt-free so it is unclear whether it is undergoing a financial collapse or its technical resources have been exhausted (probably lie). However the longevity of its problems suggest a structural deficiency.
The claim of registerfly.com by being low profitable business, which leads to bankruptcy or low quality of services, is a lie because they use automated systems, which can be very hi profitable business. Very importact is that the fact until few months ago, they didn’t show any telephone number and you could contact them only through chat or e-mail. Which shows the real low cost of the company. The fact that all this was planned, it can be seen by the fact that now they put telephone numbers on their web site.
It is very interesting the press office of ICANN:
ICANN, through its press office, was made aware of the pending publication of this story well prior to the commencement of business on Friday. ICANN was alerted to the claims being made about RegisterFly.com and was asked whether it was prepared to issue a statement concerning the status of the registrar. ICANN was also asked what mechanisms were in place to protect domain owners generally in the event of a default by an ICANN-accredited registrar. ICANN did not respond.
It is also very interesting that ICANN knows the profits of registerfly but it covers them. Their profit are huge because of the huge number of domain names that they have, the frauds that they have made to the domain owners, the stealing of the domain name, the ads that they are putting there, and the selling of the domain names without notify the owners first. Also they didn’t use any staff because everything was made automatical.
28th February 2007, 10:51
Registerfly.com belongs to enom.com
Fraud contracts between separate companies, which are separated as a part of a plan, are good αÏκετά for those two companies to claim that they are separate companies.
The global plan is very simple, they are stealing our domains and use them by their advertising companies or charge us hi expenses and now no one can help thousand domain owners all around the world. Icann.org, which is the company, which accredits the registfly, doesn’t say anything about the complaints we have made, and the only thing they answered is “we would ask the companies for their relationâ€. You don’t have to ask the companies because you already know the answer. If ICANN.org understand that they responsible, and they have lead in the trap thousands domain owners around the world, they could look in their files and they would find the relation between enom.com and registerfly.com, and also advertising domains, which are, belong to this group.
Registerfly.com and enom.com, as part of their plan, claim that they had a contract that it was terminated last year and that they are two independent companies. It is a lie, because as part of their plan it’s only an excuse that they thought when they were planning the condition they made, and the problems they have created to their customers.
But there are many opinions, which are proving that they are one behind two different companies.
First of all, until now registerfly.com have a colored big sign in the support page which inform users that the termination of the contract between registerfly.com and enom.com and they write to customers which are registered to enom.com to came in registerfly.com by lower prices. This is just enough to indicate the relationship of those too companies because this colored frame is just an very good advertise for enom.com which takes to enom.com the unhappy domain owners which are desperately trying to escape and go every day in the support page of the registerfly.com. (If they really want to make the least -as the write- domain owners who continue to be registered under enom.com they only have to send them some e-mails to call them change the registry. Even so they sent thousands fake e-mails every week by fake offers, they have all the e-mails of all their customers and they know that the direct e-mail marketing is more profitable than having the message in the complaints screen and wait the customer to complain in which you will never answer and you would wait until they change the main registar)
It is also good to investigate the progress of the things that lead this problems which is their motivation.
First of all, we know that until few months registerfly.com was official one of the enom.com Internet domain register web sites as do the most of the registars –who want to go up-. For example goddady.com is a web site of wildwestdomains.com (Wild West Domains, Inc.) and name.com is belong to domainsite.com (SPOT DOMAIN LLC DBA DOMAINSITE.COM) e.t.c.
Why the registars use other web sites and they show them as independent collaborators? It’s because they want to have different promotion style and different prices through a variety of web sites, in order to have more customers. This was in the start because after this they thought differently. They thought like this, “Why do we give them domain names in which the companies and the web masters to make money?. Let’s steal the domain names and insert ads in order to win more money taking advantage of the bad system of ICCAN.ORG who closes the domain owner to the domain registar and when the domain is expired, it belongs to the registrar
Enom.com, before a while thought the trick to make independent the company that was under them(registerfly.com), to do what it does today.
It is also interesting to look in the WHOIS information of the two domains.
Domain Name: REGISTERFLY.COM
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.enom.com
Referral URL: http://www.enom.com
Name Server: DNS1.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS2.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS3.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS4.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS5.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Creation Date: 14-aug-2000
Expiration Date: 14-aug-2009
Domain Name: ENOM.COM
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.enom.com
Referral URL: http://www.enom.com
Name Server: DNS1.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS2.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS3.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS4.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS5.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Creation Date: 24-oct-1997
Expiration Date: 21-sep-2012
As we can see from the above, registerfly continues to be registered by enom.com!!! until today.
If the claims of registerfly.com and enom.com were real, that they have bad relation and they look to take the customers of each other and registerfly was ok with the obligations they had to enom.com, THE FIRST THING THAT REGISTERFLY.COM WOULD HAVE DONE WHEN THEIR AGREEMENT WAS EXPIRED , IS TO CHANGE A REGISTAR OF THE DOMAIN REGISTERFLY.COM!!! THIS IS CLEAR AND PROOVES EVERYTHING. THEY BROKE THE FAKE CONTRACT NOT TO WORK SEPARATE, TO GIVE A BETTER FUTURE TO REGISTERFLY.COM, BUT TO DO ALL THIS FRAUDS TORTURING THOUSANDS DOMAIN OWNERS EVERY DAY.
As long as Expiration Date of the domain registerfly.com is concerned we can see clearly that expires on 14-aug-2009. This also indicate that is all were already programmed long time ago. BECAUSE ALL REGISTARS ARE HAVING AN EXPIRATION OF THEIR DOMAINS MANY YEARS LATER AND THEY DON’T WAIT TO RENEW THEM WHEN THEY EXPIRE BECAUSE THEY ARE PLANNING TO STAY IN BUSINESS. BUT REGISTERFLY.COM IS ALREADY SHOW THAT IS PLANED TO GO OUT OF THE BUSINESS.!!!
ICANN.ORG IS THE MAIN RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS TERRIBLE CONDITION BECAUSE IF THEY WANT THEY COULD STOP THIS FRAUD LONG TIME AGO.
Icann.org cover those crops –and who knows how many others-
28th February 2007, 10:52
About the claims of registerfly.com that the low prices drives the company to this condition is clear that this is jus a stupid claim.
The prices that charge their customers are much higher than other companies, which with lower prices and fewer costumers survive and have a profit.
In domain names business, the things are better when you have a lot of costumers like registerfly.com has.
The prices are not extremely low, for example $9.90 for a new domain and $7.99 for renewal action.(Without considering the thousands of frauds that they had done to the domain owners, in which they took large amounts of money all this years).
Those kind of business are having much better position when they have so many customers. Their expenses are staying extremely low because of the automatic function which drive everything well. And when the directors want it everything go badly.
For example a domain company who has a bad financial season, they only have to upgrade the prices by only one dollar. So one dollar is enough by 1 million customers to gives you 1 million dollar extra income every year. Domains owners are not willing to change registrar for 1 dollar upgrade of the prices because any way is much cheaper the prices if a domain owner wants to change registrar every year. (Transfer action is cost 6.99 to many registrars)
2nd March 2007, 22:47
I have a better idea… CALL YOUR CREDIT CARD ISSUER AND JUST CLAIM THAT ANY/ALL CHARGES BY HOSING SERVICES ARE FRAUDULENT CHARGES. I mean technically they are fraudulent charges, and if RegisterFly.com isn’t responding to customer service requests then what else can you do but get your money back.
2nd March 2007, 22:49
Sorry I meant “Hosting Services.” Freudian Slip? ABSOLUTELY.
6th March 2007, 15:39
Icann.org is the main responsible of registerfly.com fraud (and enom.com and any others which are hiding behind of this big scandal which disparage the reliability και the reputation of USA).
Registerfly.com would not have tried to do all those well-planed frauds if they hadn’t the support of icann.org
They knew that icann.org would not take off the permission despite the accusations that are coming everyday to them, in which they don’t do anything and they don’t protect the thousands domain owners who are trapped by registerfly.com
So, they sent fraud emails all the time which are telling for low prices and like that they gather domain names in their account and they don’t let them leave (they don’t unlock the domains and they don’t give author code to transfer them domains to a legal registrar) Also they hi charge credit cards, they charge credit cards without any reason, they let domains to expire without renew them and they keep them for them or they transfer them to enom.com. They sell domains, which belong to their customers, and they keep the money without giving them to the domain owners. I see my domains to be “for sale†in the Internet but I never gave them any authorization to sell my domains.
They are criminals but icann.org is responsible for all this because they knew everything and they didn’t do anything.
Thousand desperate domain owners from all over the world are trapped in registerfly.com and icaqnn.org continue to promote registerfly.com (and enom.com) as a good and authorized registrar for the domains owners!!!
Icann.org must stop immediately the registerfly.com frauds and allow to the domain owners to be transferred in other registrar as soon as possible!!!
Icann.org must go together with registerfly.com to the curt room!!!
7th March 2007, 00:13
ICANN finally does something (too late for many peoples, but better now than never):
http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-02mar07.htm
8th March 2007, 14:43
Registerfly continue their fraud
All time they do the trick of the repairing of the site, they pretend that they solve their internal problems (financial management etc). However, that’s never come through, so they never sent us author code but they continue to tell us lies about the supposed repairing of the site in order to continue with their fraud.
The Problems in my domains continue although as they say Medina left. I had renewed some of my domains but they made them to expire and they took for them. Also, they still don’t let me to renew my domains. They don’t send me the Author Code and they don’t unlock my domains in order to be transferred in other registrar. They continue to attack their costumers by sending fraud spam emails by fake prices. (TheFlyPaper.com)
We login everyday and we send them tickets for our problems but they don’t answer them. Also we sent email to ICANN but they don’t answer and they cover them. They pretend the problems in order to continue their frauds. Thousands domain owners are hostage in registerfly and steal our job our time , our money. Our names goes to enom.com and are managed my advertisers which are connected with them (enom.com is hiding behind registerfly)
DO SOMETHING NOW. PLEASE SOMEONE HELP!
REGISTERFLY PROBLEMS WILL NEVER EXPIRE, BUT OUR DOMAINS EXPIRE EVERYDAY.
We mustn’t believe them about the repairing until they solve all our problems.
WE WILL NEVER SOLVE THE PROBLEMS, ICANN COVER THEM. ALL THOSE ARE PART OF THIS BIG FRAUD.
PLEASE SOMEONE HELP!!!
8th March 2007, 19:52
I first had problems renowing in August 2006 which now I realize was around when RF became ICANN accredited. At the beginiing of 2007 I switched to a new ISP and had trouble changing some of the domain forwardings. I wasn’t getting much help from RF which was quite different compared to the couple of times I needed it in the 4 previous years. A little net searching turned up their woes and I decided to transfer away. Fortunately I found my auth code and was able to get it done in 72 hours but not without some worry.
Prior to last year RF did everything I asked them to do just fine. I think they bit off more than they could chew by becoming a full registrar and they internally collapsed. If the CEO was stealing from the company, the changeover may have been the straw that broke the camel’s back.
RF was originally a reseller for eNom. So domains with longer expiration dates should still be on eNom’s servers and you can get them transferred pretty easily at least to eNom. As far as I can tell from info on the web eNom and RF are separate companies. ENom also had its own contractual issues with RF during the time RF was becoming accredited.
Don’t forget ICANN is basically an international coordination agency. While it can set standards for members to operate to it cannot directly control members. It also needs to document everything since its actions can shut down a registrar. Doing so will probably land them in court so the documentation is extremely important to prove their case.
I don’t think RF set out to be criminal but for one reason or another decided they wanted everything for themselves and didn’t have the resources to handle it. Now they are faced with losing their customers due to these problems. They probably only have a couple of people working there now and they are overloaded.
This is probably not a conspiracy just bad business practices on RF’s part.
I do not think they will survive 2007 and will most like be bought by another registrar.
If you have domains still registered by eNom, take advantage of thier transfer program.
10th March 2007, 14:53
There are still many problems with Registerfly.
Well to begin with, I had renewed my domains and they renew them in their database and in the registry. Also they send me email saying that I successfully renewed my domains. However, looking in my account, I see that these domains are expiring. Also they send me email telling me that these domains names are expiring, although I had previously renewed them. When I am going to whois.net, I see that my domains are expiring in 2008. So, they only change their database and made my domains expire in order to take them for themselves.
Other problem is that, they deselect the auto renew buttons in order to make my domains to expire and to take our domains. I always select the auto renew button and after a while they deselect it.
FOR ALL THIS PROBLEMS, ICANN IS RESPONSIBLE AND MUST DO SOMETHING. THEY COVER THEM AND THEY DON’T HELP US. OUR DOMAINS EXPIRE EVERYDAY AND THEY DON’T DO ANYTHING. WE NEED HELP AND NO ONE IS WILLING TO HELP US.
1) Here is the First email that they say I successfully renew my domains
pfytos simeon
You have renewed the following domains in your account:
Order Number : 64380300
Domain Name : ancient-greek-music.com
Domain Id : 30134830
Expiration Date : 2008-02-24
Years added : 1
New Expire Date : 2009-02-24
Order Number : 64380356
Domain Name : ancient-useful-links.com
Domain Id : 30134837
Expiration Date : 2008-02-24
Years added : 1
New Expire Date : 2009-02-24
Order Number : 64380393
Domain Name : free-music-sites.com
Domain Id : 30134842
Expiration Date : 2007-02-24
Years added : 1
New Expire Date : 2008-02-24
Order Number : 64380410
Domain Name : Greek-manufacturers.com
Domain Id : 30134846
Expiration Date : 2007-02-24
Years added : 1
New Expire Date : 2008-02-24
Order Number : 64380445
Domain Name : greek-music-mp3.com
Domain Id : 30134851
Expiration Date : 2007-02-24
Years added : 1
New Expire Date : 2008-02-24
Order Number : 64380458
Domain Name : greek-suppliers.com
Domain Id : 30134856
Expiration Date : 2007-02-24
Years added : 1
New Expire Date : 2008-02-24
Order Number : 64380474
Domain Name : internet-philosophy.com
Domain Id : 30187559
Expiration Date : 2007-02-26
Years added : 1
New Expire Date : 2008-02-26
======================================================
Number of names processed (7)
Questions, comments – http://www.registerfly.com/support/index.php
Home Page – registerfly.com
2) Here is the second email that they say that our domains are expiring
Dear Valued Customer,
You can still maintain your rights to this name. Please contact your supplier immediately to renew your domain name(s).
The following domain name(s) have expired:
Domain Name, Expiry Date
ancient-directory.com, 2007-02-25
ancient-greek-music.com, 2007-02-25
ancient-useful-links.com, 2007-02-25
free-greek-music.com, 2007-02-25
free-music-sites.com, 2007-02-25
greek-manufacturers.com, 2007-02-25
greek-music-mp3.com, 2007-02-25
greek-suppliers.com, 2007-02-25
internet-philosophy.com 2007-02-27
How do I renew my domain name?
You need to log into your account and go to https://registerfly.com/renew. This will bring a list of all the domains in your account with the expiration dates. Click the check box next to the names you wish to renew. Once you have made your selection hit the red button that says “add to cart”. From here proceed to check out.
Thank you
Registerfly.com
3) Here is my account that shows which domains are expiring within 30 days
Domain Registered Expires
ancient-directory.com 2006-02-24 2007-02-24
ancient-greek-music.com 2006-02-24 2007-02-24
ancient-useful-links.com 2006-02-24 2007-02-24
emil-fashion.com 2006-03-21 2007-03-21
free-greek-music.com 2006-02-24 2007-02-24
free-i-s.com 2006-03-03 2007-03-03
free-music-sites.com 2006-02-24 2007-02-24
Greek-manufacturers.com 2006-02-24 2007-02-24
greek-music-mp3.com 2006-02-24 2007-02-24
greek-suppliers.com 2006-02-24 2007-02-24
internet-philosophy.com 2006-02-26 2007-02-26
Records Found: 11
4)Here is one of my domains, in whois.net which says that my domain expire in 2008
WHOIS information for: ancient-directory.com:
[whois.crsnic.net]
Whois Server Version 2.0
Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.
Domain Name: ANCIENT-DIRECTORY.COM
Registrar: REGISTERFLY.COM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.registerfly.com
Referral URL: http://www.registerfly.com
Name Server: A.00357.COM
Name Server: B.00357.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 25-feb-2007
Creation Date: 24-feb-2006
Expiration Date: 24-feb-2008
>>> Last update of whois database: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 14:36:48 UTC
22nd March 2007, 18:20
March 16- 2007 ICANN today issued a formal notice of termination of RegisterFly.com’s Registration Accreditation Agreement (RAA). Maybe we’ll get somewhere now.
Also- I noticed one post pertaining to a fraudulent CC charge they think was made by someone from Registerfly. I too have a CC card that I only used at Registerfly and in Feb started getting bogus charges from France.
12th April 2007, 00:50
Join the class action lawsuit:
http://www.registerfly-lawsuit.com/
19th April 2007, 14:24
In 2007-03-30 I opened in Registerfly a Support Ticket in which I said:
“We want to unlock all our domain and sent author codes in order to move to other registrar.â€
The answer that they gave was
“Try to do it yourself and the ones that you are not able to do send them to me on a list. You have too many domains and I’m not going to check them one by one.â€
Well I checked my domains and saw that I couldn’t unlock them so I went to support ticket and I send them the below message in 2007-04-04:
“I tried to unlock my domains but I cannot unlock them.
I go to each domain and press the Domain Status button in order to change them into unclok but they still remain locked.
So I want all of my domains to be unlocked and to take the Authorization codes in order to transfer them to another registrar.â€
Even Today (2007-04-18), 2 weeks after my last message, I haven’t got any answer. I still cannot unlock my domains and they don’t help me. They continue to fool me all their customers. They are not willing to unlock my domains and give authorization code in order to leave from them. They keep me and other customers hostages and noone is willing to help us. ICANN IS ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THIS BECAUSE THEY COVER THEIR FRAUD AND THEY DON’T HELP US LEAVE FROM REGISTERFLY.
20th April 2007, 02:11
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25th April 2007, 15:46
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16th May 2007, 16:20
Thank you so much for the info regarding Registryfly.
I followed the instructions and got my authcodes. I only realized the problem when I found that I never get any reply from support and found their phone numbers disconnected.
But I still have one favorite domain suspended nowhere. I got it transferred from Godady but they won’t list it in my account despite no less than 20 emails fro me in the last 6 months.
12th September 2007, 00:51
Thanks for the detailed instructions. When I couldn’t get the AuthCode from RegisterFly, it was following your telephone calls to enom were what worked for me.
Without you, my domain would be dead for weeks and maybe even bought by someone else. It was only finding the information here that I became aware of the magnitude of the problem and suffered only for a few hours.
Thank you so very much.
8th May 2008, 13:23
Hi, enom.com steal my domains http://www.neohazard.net and humanrightsworldwide.org.
they refuse to bring it back.
Wat I can do?
enom.com is the most important fraud in the internet and 1cann DON’t do nothing to stop it.
7th April 2009, 14:32
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